Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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moeburn
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Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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Hello!

Heads up! Your website/forum seems to be broken. It keeps sending me to "http" links, and then getting an "https port on http" error. I can fix the issue by changing http:// to https:// in the address bar after I receive the error on your forum. This error has occured on the email activation link, and on the 'new post' link.

Example: After registering for this forum, I got the following activation link in my email:

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http://www.gargoyle-router.com:443/phpbb/ucp.php?mode=activate&u=4848&k=XXXXXXXXX
Now that is obviously a bad link; you should not have port 443 on an http protocol, because port 443 is for https, and confuses my Google Chrome browser.

Now, on to my question! :D

I have a WNDR3700v2 router, and the built in firmware was broken, it wasn't giving out MAC addresses for wireless computers to wired ones, so they couldn't talk to each other, even though they could both surf the net, and wireless isolation was turned off. So I installed DD-WRT to fix it. And fix it it did. But now I can't use QoS, because QoS is horribly horribly awfully broken in DD-WRT.

So is it easy to switch to Gargoyle? I notice there is a model-specific firmware for Gargoyle for my router. Do I use the factory.img, or the sysupgrade.img, since I am no longer running on factory firmware?

And how IS the QoS in Gargoyle? Can I use it to limit the upload bandwidth of a specific computer/MAC, so that when my torrent box is seeding, the rest of the computers can still access the internet with no apparent slowdown (because we have asynchronous DSL, using up the upload bandwidth cripples the DL bandwidth)?

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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moeburn
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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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I don't understand, you linked to a compatibility page for my router for openwrt? Whats that got to do with switching from DD-WRT to Gargoyle? Are you saying Gargoyle isn't what I need, and I should choose OpenWRT?

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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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Gargoyle is just a front end/GUI to OpenWRT

Use the OpenWRT docs for more detailed information about your router

moeburn
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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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So I need to flash OpenWRT to the router before I can flash the Gargoyle factory.img that is specifically designed for the WNDR3700v2?

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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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moeburn wrote:So I need to flash OpenWRT to the router before I can flash the Gargoyle factory.img that is specifically designed for the WNDR3700v2?
usually openwrt and gargoyle images are interchangeable

I don't know the details of your router and compatability etc

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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

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That's okay, I do, and I know for certain it is compatible, because there is a gargoyle image that is specifically designed for my router.

All I need to know, is whether I have to flash to the original factory Netgear firmware before I can flash to Gargoyle.

Or, can I flash straight from DD-WRT?

Or, do I need to flash OpenWRT first?

The answers to these questions should be the same no matter what router I'm on.

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Re: Switch from DD-WRT to Gargoyle?

Post by zespri »

I'm a gargoyle noob, so sorry if I can't contribute a lot. If I were in your shoes what I'd do is to try and revert to standard firmware if possible and the flash with gargoyle. Flashing from standard firmware to gargoyle is known to work, but we know that you can't normally flush standard firmware from gargoyle - that can brick the router. That might mean that flashing gargoyle from dd-wrt won't work either. I don't know.

Thus, I'd head here http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=79802 and do the restore and then flash gargoyle: that would be the safest in my opinion.

As far as QoS goes, on a local forum people are of the opinion that gargoyle has the best QoS out of the three (dd-wrt, openwrt and gargoyle). My own QoS needs are quite limited so the fact that it's working out for me nicely does not actually mean much.

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