Gargoyle Forum

Hi everyone,
I'm looking to buy a new router (WNDR3800) to use with Gargoyle.
I currently have a Billion 7800VDPX, it's a modem/router - it also has QOS but doesn't seem to work. Apparently, the network needs to be fully congested for it to work.
The problem is, I have a lot of devices connected to my network, and if 1-2 people stream youtube for eg, then my PC lags quite a lot. However, I don't think youtube will use the full 13mbps (thats my connection download rate) but my download speed usually maxes at 1mb/s download - so then QOS won't kick in.

So what I wan't is to limit the download rate for each device group.
My current groups are something like
g1 - 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.10
g2 - 11 to 20
g3 - 21 to 30
g4 - 31 to 40

Each group may have 3 devices (phones, tablets, mac/pc)
and I use their mac address to set their IP so theyre always the same

What I want to do is limit the download rate for each group with DIFFERENT values, so maybe for example:
g1 : 2mb/s
g2 : 2mb/s
g3: 4mb/s
g4 : 5mb/s

I'm not technical so assuming my connection speed is 13mb/s or so, that should add up right?
So do I limit my 'connection download rate' or do I limit my 'actual download rate (1mbps)' ?
If it was download rate, it would be something like
g1 : 200kb/s
g2 : 200kb/s
g3 : 400kb/s
g4 : 500kb/s

I've been reading these forums and have seen most things about 'QOS/quota/shaping,
But I'm worried that if I use QOS, it just won't work how I want it to just like my 7800VDPX, I don't want to buy a new router since I'm kinda broke and for it to not work as intended.

However, this has 'quota' and 'shaping' which I don't think I currently have..
But I don't need anything with 'quota' I just want to 'shape' ALWAYS and diff values (so not setting the same universal shaping to all devices/group)

I read people saying to have a quota of for eg 500mb, then it will shape. But I want it to always be on.

And I don't really need 'QOS' because if shaping works like how I think it's supposed to, then there's no point of QOS right if everyone's already limited

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So my question is, is what I want to do possible with the Netgear router and Gargoyle?
Is shaping what I want to do?
Would I be shaping actual download speed, or the download connection rate for each device/ip group
Would I need to set up QOS or Quota if all I want is shaping?

Would really appreciate if I can get things cleared up before I go ahead with the purchase.
'QOS' doesn't really seem to work and would really love a proper fix

Thanks in advance

Sorry I put this in troubleshooting, maybe this should be in general discussion as it's not a problem but a question. Can a mod please move this?

Right I'm not too technical, my connection download is 14000kbps but if i ever download the most download rate i get is 1.2mb/s if that makes sense, these are different things right? Any how so does gargoyle work with what I want to do? I'm not sure what your answer helps me with I'm still confused and I already know QOS doesn't work even on my current router because I lag when someone else streams.

They are not different things. Try testing your connection with speedtest.net with QoS off. What does it report for your upload and download speeds? This is your speed.