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looking for a new AP

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:13 pm
by hnl_dk
Hello

I am looking for a new cheap AP, as my current AP is not working with Gargoyle... http://www.gargoyle-router.com/phpbb/vi ... 7812#p7812

The AP should be as cheap as possible. Work with Gargoyle/OpenWRT and should at least be supported for a few years :roll:

My router is a TL-WR1043ND, so I guess that it would be the best if it would be another Atheros router/AP.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:57 pm
by DoesItMatter
You really gotta post more specifications.

Requirements (gigabit, USB, etc)

Thats like saying, you need a car and it has to be cheap...

I'm currently running for main routers:

Asus RT-N16 ( Tomato mod firmware by Toastman )

Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH ( Gargoyle/OpenWRT )

Cisco E3000 ( DD-WRT )

All 3 work quite well but it took a while to figure out which
firmware was best on each router, but they DO work consistently.

Asus - got for about $80 shipped - NewEgg

Buffalo - got for about $75 shipped - NewEgg

Cisco - got for $63 shipped - NewEgg (remanufactured)

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:43 pm
by hnl_dk
DoesItMatter wrote:You really gotta post more specifications.

Requirements (gigabit, USB, etc)
...
I have no special requirements, except:
The AP should be as cheap as possible. Work with Gargoyle/OpenWRT and should at least be supported for a few years :roll:
Ok, it would be nice if it had a minimum of two ethernet ports (no need for gigabit). And as my router supports 300Mbps, it would be nice if the AP would do the same.

I need it to connect my thin client and my blu-ray player to my network.

The Danish prices seem a bit higher ;-)
Looking at the Danish market, it seems like the cheapest router, that seems to fulfill what I need is the TP-Link TL-WR940N: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr940n
I guess that Gargoyle should make it an ok low-cost AP.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:53 pm
by DoesItMatter
Probably the easiest would be to post what routers you can
get cheap locally, and have other members comment on them.

Honestly, TP-Link is very flaky from comments I've seen.

I wonder if they are just too new and more work needs to be done
to stabilize their compatibility, or their Q.C. is not the greatest.

If you really want stability - I'd stay away from TP-Link unless
you have a known stable TP-Link router that always works for you.

Then make sure you get the exact same version & hardware rev.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:13 pm
by hnl_dk
List of "cheap" devices:
Belkin F7D2301CQ
D-Link DIR-615/E
TP-Link TL-WR940N
Buffalo WHR-G300NV2-EU
Netgear WNCE2001-100PES
Linksys E1000-EN
Longshire LCS-WRN-3211
Netgear WNCE2001-100GRS
Buffalo WHR-HP-G300N

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:14 am
by DoesItMatter
hnl_dk wrote:List of "cheap" devices:
Belkin F7D2301CQ
D-Link DIR-615/E
TP-Link TL-WR940N
Buffalo WHR-G300NV2-EU
Netgear WNCE2001-100PES
Linksys E1000-EN
Longshire LCS-WRN-3211
Netgear WNCE2001-100GRS
Buffalo WHR-HP-G300N
The D-Link DIR-615 rev E should be OK but be advised, my
D-Link DIR601 has a weak antenna - I think a lot of the D-Link routers
have weaker range than normal, but input from other users
may be helpful on that.

The Buffalo WHR-HP-G300N should be good, but you would probably
have to use DD-WRT for that one as I don't see any OpenWRT
work on that = no Gargoyle support either yet.

Linksys E1000 looks like its being worked on by OpenWRT but again,
may be a while for that one to be supported by Gargoyle.

The TP-Link TL-WR940N looks like should be supported by OpenWRT
but others hopefully will give feedback on performance/stability.

No ideas on the Belkin, Longshire, or Netgear routers.
The other Buffalo EU version, again - not sure.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:37 pm
by hnl_dk
DoesItMatter wrote:The D-Link DIR-615 rev E should be OK but be advised, my
D-Link DIR601 has a weak antenna - I think a lot of the D-Link routers
have weaker range than normal, but input from other users
may be helpful on that.
I already have a DIR-615 B2 lying... and yes the antennas are very weak on that one.
According to the table of hardware it is not yet supported (at least problems with the LEDs).
DoesItMatter wrote:The Buffalo WHR-HP-G300N should be good, but you would probably
have to use DD-WRT for that one as I don't see any OpenWRT
work on that = no Gargoyle support either yet.
ok
DoesItMatter wrote:Linksys E1000 looks like its being worked on by OpenWRT but again,
may be a while for that one to be supported by Gargoyle.
ok
DoesItMatter wrote:The TP-Link TL-WR940N looks like should be supported by OpenWRT
but others hopefully will give feedback on performance/stability.
I hope that someone has some experience with this one.
DoesItMatter wrote:No ideas on the Belkin, Longshire, or Netgear routers.
The other Buffalo EU version, again - not sure.
That is also the main reason who I did choose TP-Link for my Router.
TP-Link may not be the one with the best hardware... But the hardware is not changing that often (within the same model number).

Thank you very much with your help.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:38 pm
by DoesItMatter
hnl_dk wrote: I already have a DIR-615 B2 lying... and yes the antennas are very weak on that one.
According to the table of hardware it is not yet supported (at least problems with the LEDs).
You can use the DIR-600 Rev A firmware for the DIR-615 B or E versions
But you won't see correct LED's

My DIR-601 same issue - works great, weak wireless, and LED's are
not all lit - but I don't see the router anyway so I don't care about
the LED's and whether or not they work.

Should still work OK as another AP though.

DoesItMatter wrote:The TP-Link TL-WR940N looks like should be supported by OpenWRT
but others hopefully will give feedback on performance/stability.
I hope that someone has some experience with this one.
Thank you very much with your help.

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Yea, not sure if many use the 940/941's - I think most go for
the TP-Link 1043 models

Since you have the D-Link - try flashing Gargoyle 1.4.1 on there
and see how it performs - if you can replace the antenna,
you might be able to boost some of the signal strength.

Re: looking for a new AP

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:22 am
by hnl_dk
DoesItMatter wrote:
hnl_dk wrote: I already have a DIR-615 B2 lying... and yes the antennas are very weak on that one.
According to the table of hardware it is not yet supported (at least problems with the LEDs).
You can use the DIR-600 Rev A firmware for the DIR-615 B or E versions
But you won't see correct LED's

My DIR-601 same issue - works great, weak wireless, and LED's are
not all lit - but I don't see the router anyway so I don't care about
the LED's and whether or not they work.

Should still work OK as another AP though.
If I remember correctly the DIR-615 B2 has only got 2MB flash and has a Ubicom IP5090U CPU and IIRC is it not supported by any open source router OS.
DoesItMatter wrote:
DoesItMatter wrote:The TP-Link TL-WR940N looks like should be supported by OpenWRT
but others hopefully will give feedback on performance/stability.
I hope that someone has some experience with this one.
Thank you very much with your help.

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Yea, not sure if many use the 940/941's - I think most go for
the TP-Link 1043 models

Since you have the D-Link - try flashing Gargoyle 1.4.1 on there
and see how it performs - if you can replace the antenna,
you might be able to boost some of the signal strength.
I will give it a try. Thank you very much.