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NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:34 am
by rockyd
My ISP has upgraded my connection to what they call Superfast for 6 months. According to the ISP I should see around 200Mb/s download speeds, other people who have the temporary upgrade, are actually seeing around 250Mb/s. I have only been seeing around 100Mb/s on my Gargoyle WNDR3800. Out of curiosity I plugged the ISP modem in and I too see around 230Mb/s.
Why would I only see 100Mb/s with Gargoyle WNDR3800?

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:44 am
by Lantis
Your device isn't capable of routing that speed with 3rd party firmware installed.
Depending on which features of Gargoyle you have enabled, your speed will decrease. I think with nothing enabled you might see 160mbps peak.

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:02 am
by rockyd
Bugger, well that explains it.
Are there Gargoyle capable routers that would be able to route those speeds and more? Guessing I would need to find routers with faster processors?

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:11 am
by Lantis
Faster processor yep.
The high performers are the WRT AC series from Linksys. They have some wireless issues however with certain wireless clients. So you may want to keep the other router in service as a simple AP.

There's been a small effort to do some performance testing on OpenWrt
https://forum.openwrt.org/t/comparative ... nvpn/44724
The routing with NAT numbers are what you are interested in.
I'd take off 10% for Gargoyle and it's bandwidth monitoring.
Sqm vs Gargoyle QoS numbers are reasonably comparable.

Personally I'm running a Netgear R7800 which is comparable (slightly weaker) than the Linksys WRT AC series. You have to import it as we only got the D7800 in Australia which has a CPU half the speed and a modem which doesn't work under Gargoyle anyway.

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:31 am
by pythonic
Lantis wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:11 am
we only got the D7800 in Australia which has a CPU half the speed
:?: :o
I wouldn't have said half as 1.4GHz is still most of the R7800's 1.7GHz and my own testing puts it at about that ratio (~80%). However OpenWrt cripples the D7800 by only configuring 256MB of RAM when it looks like most if not all production units have 512MB same as the R7800 (I have tested a patch that fixes this on my D7800).

ipq40xx would probably get you to 250/25 (but I haven't tried to performance test my GL-B1300 or EA6350v3 builds so far).

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:42 pm
by Lantis
Sorry bad memory, thought it was closer to half

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:48 am
by rockyd
Bought a used Linksys WRT1900AC with the intent of putting Gargoyle on it. Correct me if I am wrong, but I should be able to put Gargoyle on it, and restore one of my backups from my Netgear WNDR3800 onto it, as long as I install the same version as my Netgear onto the Linksys?
Edit: Not that easy, can't tell which 1.10 version is the right one.

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:02 am
by Lantis
No definitely don't do that. Device specific information is in the backup.
You won't kill it, but you'll soft brick it and create a bit of a headache.

Just set it up fresh.
I'd install 1.12.x from the show and tell forum for the latest.

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:02 am
by Lantis
Is your device a V1 or V2?

Re: NBN Superfast on Gargoyle

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:32 pm
by rockyd
I guess lucky I couldn't tell which 1.10 version to use. I did do a fresh install of 1.12, and got stuck trying to work out how to set VLAN 2 for my ISP, which the router uses for its own purposes, even in Gargoyle.
Its Linksys WRT1900ACV2 according to the label on the bottom.