TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Information on changing log levels and output
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/log.essentials

Have you tried Openwrt?
This kind of problem is almost certainly not isolated to Gargoyle, which would mean it also affects the Openwrt subsystem.
That would make it something that we can't look into/fix easily.
However if you're running 1.8.1 you're also running an outdated Openwrt version which is unlikely to be looked at. It may have even been fixed.
1.9.1 (or an even later version from the community builds) is my recommendation.

If you can isolate it to Gargoyle I can look at it closer. But I've never heard of it before.

If you post the logs here I'll look at them.
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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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also need to consider broken hardware.

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Lantis wrote:Information on changing log levels and output
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/log.essentials

Have you tried Openwrt?
This kind of problem is almost certainly not isolated to Gargoyle, which would mean it also affects the Openwrt subsystem.
That would make it something that we can't look into/fix easily.
However if you're running 1.8.1 you're also running an outdated Openwrt version which is unlikely to be looked at. It may have even been fixed.
1.9.1 (or an even later version from the community builds) is my recommendation.

If you can isolate it to Gargoyle I can look at it closer. But I've never heard of it before.

If you post the logs here I'll look at them.
Thank you Lantis.
I have not tried OpenWRT on this router. Have had it running Gargoyle since I bought it about 3yrs now (when it replaced our old TP-Link 1043).

Will try using 1.9.1... but, like I said, I have always stuck with stable, well, because I had the understanding that it was. Stable.

Here is one example I found of someone having the same problem as me (however, I did not try to sniff the network, yet).

I will PM you with some log examples I have gathered.

Thanks.
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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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tapper wrote:Hi mate you need to flash this build.
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10777

1.8.1 is verry buggy.
I have 2 wdr3600 routers on this build one as a bridge and one as a AP at my sister's house. The thing about c7's getting bricked is from a old build and does not matter any more. 1.8.1 has so many bugs it will be like platting snot trying to find out just witch one is making your router reboot. 1.9.1 has a new build of openwrt as a base and a newer kernel witch will keep you safer.
Thanks Tapper for the info.
Always thought "stable" was just that. At least, over experimental.

Will try it and see how I go.
I do have quite a big setup and that also puts me off upgrading, as I have to add in all the rules, quotas, MAC address pools, DDNS, DNS masquing/restricting, etc. Now also, Syslog-ing to external server. ;)
Cheers!

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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ispyisail wrote:also need to consider broken hardware.
Could be... but why does it not 'crash reboot' when NOT using this one PC with Win10?

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Cachorro wrote:
Lantis wrote:Information on changing log levels and output
https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/log.essentials

Have you tried Openwrt?
This kind of problem is almost certainly not isolated to Gargoyle, which would mean it also affects the Openwrt subsystem.
That would make it something that we can't look into/fix easily.
However if you're running 1.8.1 you're also running an outdated Openwrt version which is unlikely to be looked at. It may have even been fixed.
1.9.1 (or an even later version from the community builds) is my recommendation.

If you can isolate it to Gargoyle I can look at it closer. But I've never heard of it before.

If you post the logs here I'll look at them.
Thank you Lantis.
I have not tried OpenWRT on this router. Have had it running Gargoyle since I bought it about 3yrs now (when it replaced our old TP-Link 1043).

Will try using 1.9.1... but, like I said, I have always stuck with stable, well, because I had the understanding that it was. Stable.

Here are a couple examples I found of people having the same problem as me (however, I did not try to sniff the network, yet).

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comm ... r_windows/

http://superuser.com/questions/970777/w ... constantly

http://superuser.com/questions/1125049/ ... ully-reset

I will PM you with some log examples I have gathered.

Thanks.

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

Post by tapper »

Hi mate if you make a backup of some of the files from your router using WinSCP you can save you some time.
Back them up to your PC and then flash and coppy them across.
/etc/hosts
/etc/ethers
/etc/config/dhcp
/etc/config/firewall
/etc/firewall.user
If you copy any of thees files pleas test that the router does not reboot before you put them back to your router just encase the issue is in one.
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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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tapper wrote:Hi mate if you make a backup of some of the files from your router using WinSCP you can save you some time.
Back them up to your PC and then flash and coppy them across.
/etc/hosts
/etc/ethers
/etc/config/dhcp
/etc/config/firewall
/etc/firewall.user
If you copy any of thees files pleas test that the router does not reboot before you put them back to your router just encase the issue is in one.
Thanks Tapper.
Yes! That's a good point, specially for the ones not aware.

I did just that, and a few other files:
/etc/config/ddns_gargoyle
/etc/config/email
/etc/config/network
/etc/config/system
/etc/config/wireless

Unit has been working for almost 2 days now, not one glitch!
And using Windows10 PC regularly.
:)

Thanks for the tip!
(still, took me about an 1 1/2 hrs to get done; start to finish).

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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Just for the future, bringing the network/system config between major versions is a big no no and could go very badly.
Looks like you were lucky.

But i would NEVER advocate preserving that file unless people know what they are doing.
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Re: TL-WDR3600, running v1.8.1, intermittently reboots

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Lantis wrote:Just for the future, bringing the network/system config between major versions is a big no no and could go very badly.
Looks like you were lucky.

But i would NEVER advocate preserving that file unless people know what they are doing.
Hi Lantis.
True.
I actually compared the new file and old files, then edited the new by copy/paste of the lines I wanted across from my existing system. And it worked. So far, no glitches.
;)

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