Data and device limitations

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Data and device limitations

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I have been asked by my customer, the owner of a floor in an apartment block which has 22 bedsits along a corridor what options he has has to limit data and device connectivity to each bedsit. I understand that by using your router/firmware you allocate an IP address for each user. This would limit data but not device amount connectivity because you could use the main device as a dongle or hotspot? How many users/addresses can you create? How many and what type of wireless router would be required for a 55 metre corridor with 11 rooms arranged evenly on either side?

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Re: Data and device limitations

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There is a technical limit for how many devices, but it is far higher than any practical user could hit.
For simplicity, the limit is around 250.

You will need to do your own research on which exact router will give you the coverage you desire. This isn't the expertise of this forum.
I'd suggest you almost want 2 routers, depending on number of walls and density.
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Re: Data and device limitations

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Thanks for your reply. I am considering using the Gargoyle TP link router for this corridor. Please see my questions below so as to advise whether what I am planning will work. The owner also wants to limit devices per user.

Do you create users with different passwords and then they are given one static IP within the LAN? Can you then limit data and bandwidth on the individual users/addresses? Would the user be able to connect multiple devices by using the main one as a dongle or hotspot?
I would recommend that the owner takes out an unlimited business broadband contract and I'll put this router in modem mode so the Gargoyle router takes over the routing functions.

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Re: Data and device limitations

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There are no "users" as such. Only devices.
Devices are identified by their MAC address. You assign a static IP to the mac address and then apply any limitations to the device based on its IP.

Yes they could use a router as their main device and then connect several of their devices to it. You can't stop that.
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Re: Data and device limitations

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Thanks!

I think we are going to go ahead with this solution in the new year.

Just two more questions..

Firstly can a user login a different device every time they connect or does the password lock them to one MAC address?

And secondly would you be able to ship the Gargoyle pre-loaded router to the UK? as I have not been able to calculate shipping or complete my cart.

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Re: Data and device limitations

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The wifi password is generic access. Any person/device which knows the password can gain access.
You can then apply rules to stop any unknown devices from doing anything.
E.g.
All hosts without an explicit quota - Shutdown internet access

You can also enforce that an IP address belongs to a MAC address.


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Re: Remote access

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If I used the same type of router as shown in the store, could I access it remotely? There will be another router provided by the ISP but that would be put into modem mode and the Gargoyle router will take over the routing functions. If we had a static IP could we configure router for remote access to edit users?

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Re: Data and device limitations

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Yes remote access is a feature
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Re: Data and device limitations

Post by jamiepirotta »

Hi My router has arrived and I am ready to upgrade the firmware.
I purchased the TP Link TL-WR1043ND v3 because this is the one that was available in the store so I thought it would be the easiest to upgrade.
I can now see that there are no firmware images yet available for this particular router. Have I made a mistake?

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Re: Data and device limitations

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There are V3 images available
http://lantisproject.com/gargoyle_ispyi ... 17/ar71xx/

Some people report issues flashing them due to locked firmware.
You should follow this: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7176&start=130#p43402

Always research the router you're going to buy first.
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