Support for FON SIMPL

[simpl]

Hi there,

I wonder if anyone has successfully installed gargoyle firmware on FON SIMPL router? It comes with 4.0.1.4 firmware.


thanks

[simpl]

sorry i forgot to include the model is 2405e

[DoesItMatter]

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/19/fone ... -a-better/

Closest I could find to a good description.

1) Wireless-N is not officially supported currently with Gargoyle
2) Be aware that many vendors have started to use RaLink chipset
reference boards as a cheap design, and that's definitely not fully
supported by OpenWRT

Hardware specs and especially pictures of the inside would
definitely be helpful to determining future support of this.

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Edit: Did more searching and some posts in various message boards
confirm my suspicion: the Fon SIMPL looks like it's RaLink chipset.
The 150MB max (1 antenna wireless-n) versions typically come with
a reference design of 4mb flash and 16mb RAM - not a lot of space
to work with for 3rd party firmwares.

If it were me, I would NOT use this one for hacking.

[simpl]

this is bad....
stuck with fon firmware 4ever!!

[skynetbbs]

At the moment the device is only given to iphone customers in Japan (Softbank) and to Comstar customers in Russia. As soon as FON starts selling them in Europe they will be posting the sourcecode (openwrt/fon addons/ralink binary chipset for simpl device) to www.fonosfera.org svn

it's a 150mbit ralink version of the Fonera 2.0n. Technically it could also replace the fonera 2.0g as there is also "usb" support inside the ralink soc.

The Ralink chipset used has no "opensource" drivers; and there is no reverse engineering project as advanced as MadWifi/HAL like there is for Atheros based SoC

the SIMPL will replace the current Fonera+ device... will be smaller...faster... better wifi range... better wan-lan speeds that are workeable with current 35-100mbit customer internet connections due to Cable Docsis 3.0, VDSL, Fiber connectivity to the home

The Fonera 2.0n hasn't been supported by Gargoyle as well... Sourcecode has been posted since september 2009 on svn.fonosfera.org; last wifi driver was updated on 20th november 2009...

[skynetbbs]

FON SIMPL can be ordered here: https://shop.fon.com/FonShop/shop/FPPLo ... %3APRD-023

pictures of hardware : http://picasaweb.google.com/steven.leem ... 2237126466

it has 2mbyte FLASH (instead of 8mbyte) and 32mbyte of RAM...
no usb port... but a 'removable' r-sma antenna ... 150mbit speed (1 antenna instead of 2)

Hacked firmware exists allready to get ssh access

[DoesItMatter]

Looks like a nice router - but still - too small to really hack around.

Gargoyle only works on 4MB or 8MB flash routers.

I don't think there will ever be support for a 2MB flash because
a lot of the drivers are so big, the binary can't be made small
enough to fit in the flash.

I believe even DD-WRT is going that way as well, I don't think they
will be supporting any more 2MB flash routers in the future.
The Wireless-N drivers take up too much memory.

[skynetbbs]

Looks like a nice router - but still - too small to really hack around.
Gargoyle only works on 4MB or 8MB flash routers.
I don't think there will ever be support for a 2MB flash because
a lot of the drivers are so big, the binary can't be made small
enough to fit in the flash.
I believe even DD-WRT is going that way as well, I don't think they
will be supporting any more 2MB flash routers in the future.
The Wireless-N drivers take up too much memory.

No idea...currently one can switch between the Ralink SDK firmware or fon (openwrt) firmware
as far as I see, mostly due to the "static" nature of these wireless-n drivers it's mostly an issue of choosing "AP" version or "Mesh" version; it doesn't seem to fit within 2mbyte to have both (conclusion after reading 25 hack reports ...or I have misinterpreted the googletranslate (japanese)

[Marlow]

Old thread .. i know ..

Has anyone a link, how to to hack to get SSH access to these units ?

I'd like to poke around. OpenWRT wiki specified, that they had more storage, but obviously 2 MB would be far too little to do anything with them.

/M